Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 9:29 pm
Joined: 29 Jul 2002
Posts: 207
ProtonageNet
Computer Programmer / Administrator

All information to the beta testers of the Elo-style ladder ranking system will held here.
Developers:
TeratO
ALACN
IncaWarrior
ProtonageNet
Beta Testers:
TeratO
Scorpion
joris_master
[GOD]Dark_Lord
NGKAYIN
[xXx]Husky
[rw]haRd-Wear
[HUN]MR-TaNk
Please visit TeratO's ELO league table experiment here:
http://popre.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4395&start=23
This is not the same thing as the elo league table experiment. The testing that goes on here is for development of the detection of win/lose/lagouts and other in game statistics we need to reverse engineer populous.
please view our memory matrix here:
http://paulpedia.com/populous/memory_matrix04.htm
Tasks Accomplished:
Real-Time Game Statistics (fights won, shaman deaths, buildings destroyed, etc)
Player Name to Tribe Color
Real-Time Ally Status in Game
Game Launch Detection from Level Select Screen
Lag or Lost Connection Detection
Resync Detection
True Win/Loss Detection
Number of Troops and Types
Tasks in Queue:
Player Dropout after Game Launch from Level Select Screen
In Game Timer
Last edited by ProtonageNet on Wed Nov 14, 2007 1:21 pm; edited 4 times in total
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[TDM]MooresMurder Wildman

Joined: 25 Aug 2005
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Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 7:51 am -
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use some tester that have brains and experiance terato has one and not the other and others dont have experiance
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[AsG]daroo Preacher


Joined: 21 Mar 2006
Posts: 902 Location: Poland |
Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 9:14 am -
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good luck guys  _________________

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ProtonageNet Computer Programmer / Administrator

Joined: 29 Jul 2002
Posts: 207
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Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 9:06 pm -
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I got those guys to get me into 4 player game so i could log memory values.. I will need people to lose games so I can log win results when win and also lagout results.
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Suleiman_DT Shaman


Joined: 15 Nov 2003
Posts: 5543 Location: Clinton, Indiana - USA |
Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 1:01 pm -
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Delete the other four on this subject since we have an official one. Now that the reigns are being placed in the hands of someone other than TeratO, I'll support this system of recording wins / losses more. _________________ www.thedakinihut.artytech.net
FuĀcking go there.
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ProtonageNet Computer Programmer / Administrator

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Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 9:15 pm -
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win/lose results can now be detected by debugging a line of code in assemb and looking for a pointer to the lang file that is also loaded into memory. works perfectly for win/loss/ and lag or lost connection detection!
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ProtonageNet Computer Programmer / Administrator

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Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 9:18 pm -
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right now i have a map for color to player, and also a launch game byte that changes when game is launched, that can be used to verify game is in playing mode and we can grab stuff like the level name they are playing on, and the players in the game, and the color assigned
hard part right now is detecting if player made it to the game and is playing, some cases players make it to the launch screen then host launches and they get a black screen and never play, while host and other clients think he just quit. this will be not that hard because MM can detect player came back from game with no loss report and everyone else is in game so the match will be invalid and no records offical
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Stephanie Preacher

Joined: 26 Aug 2006
Posts: 694 Location: Australia |
Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 10:51 pm -
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It's getting somewhere, that's all that matters.
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Zeyta Warrior

Joined: 14 May 2005
Posts: 331 Location: Florida |
Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 5:17 pm -
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| [TDM]MooresMurder wrote: | | use some tester that have brains and experiance terato has one and not the other and others dont have experiance |
What the hell does experience have to do with it? :/
Anyway, I want to beta test this.  _________________ Darekmistrzu> Zeyta - When it has fired (has lit) former it ¶ small cradle sie and it extinguished your old ± spade ± j
Darekmistrzu> Zeyta - But they let's look (let's look) with (from) pancake that too fish mix orangutana kanarkiem
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Stephanie Preacher

Joined: 26 Aug 2006
Posts: 694 Location: Australia |
Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 8:44 pm -
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Then come on when ProtonageNet is in the MM.
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[AsG]Drummerdude48 Warrior


Joined: 03 Feb 2007
Posts: 272 Location: Ireland |
Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 2:13 pm -
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Hows the testing coming along? _________________
There is no avoiding war, it can only be postponed to the advantage of others.
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d4d4 Preacher

Joined: 13 May 2007
Posts: 758 Location: United Kingdom |
Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 3:38 pm -
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anyway, i think its a waste of time, ask king warg to help u out  , on his mm you can choose the colour of your tribe, protonage reckon you could do the same? _________________ Arsenal & gaming talks held here.
Contact me 07799346081 if you know me
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Lich Warrior


Joined: 09 Jan 2004
Posts: 293 Location: Florida |
Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 5:04 pm -
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definatly not a waste of time, this new system will do away with all the drama of the current leagues, ranks/points will actually mean something, u'll actually be able to be proud of ur rank. _________________ Save your pity for the weak, Mortal.
Visit me: Populous: Era of Resurrection

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Mystified_DT Shaman


Joined: 13 Nov 2003
Posts: 5520 Location: Well... Some say New York. I say hell. |
Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 11:15 pm -
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Think we should delete all the points and switch to this too. _________________ Fabioskm on Popre's New League System:
fabioskm> i hate this
fabioskm> lose points
fabioskm> im cry for this
fabioskm> good bye for all my friends
fabioskm> \o
RIP Fabioskm
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[AsG]Sub Zero Shaman


Joined: 15 May 2004
Posts: 5278 Location: England |
Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 1:29 am -
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Or keep the points for name change purposes, and charge 500 points per change _________________ [11:46] <Sub_Zero> greggs is gonna be highlight of my day
[11:46] <Drummerdude48> sweet
[11:46] <Drummerdude48> guy in college?
[11:46] <Drummerdude48> or the bus driver?
[11:48] <Sub_Zero> the bakers :/

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[AsG]Sub Zero Shaman


Joined: 15 May 2004
Posts: 5278 Location: England |
Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 1:31 am -
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Why can't it edit my posts here?!
I was gonna add i'd like to see this project actually work but it does seem a little deaders _________________ [11:46] <Sub_Zero> greggs is gonna be highlight of my day
[11:46] <Drummerdude48> sweet
[11:46] <Drummerdude48> guy in college?
[11:46] <Drummerdude48> or the bus driver?
[11:48] <Sub_Zero> the bakers :/

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Mystified_DT Shaman


Joined: 13 Nov 2003
Posts: 5520 Location: Well... Some say New York. I say hell. |
Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 5:34 am -
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I agree with that point charge. Maybe even more for the change, to make it for the serious players with an already established point average.
But then the players like Drumz0r wouldn't be able to get in... And he's definently a good elo entrant. _________________ Fabioskm on Popre's New League System:
fabioskm> i hate this
fabioskm> lose points
fabioskm> im cry for this
fabioskm> good bye for all my friends
fabioskm> \o
RIP Fabioskm
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[AsG]Drummerdude48 Warrior


Joined: 03 Feb 2007
Posts: 272 Location: Ireland |
Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 7:04 am -
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[AsG]Sub Zero Shaman


Joined: 15 May 2004
Posts: 5278 Location: England |
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 3:58 am -
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I meant 500 points for a name change keith.. the ELO should be for everyone
And you couldn't noob bash cos you're a noob yourself, geddit? _________________ [11:46] <Sub_Zero> greggs is gonna be highlight of my day
[11:46] <Drummerdude48> sweet
[11:46] <Drummerdude48> guy in college?
[11:46] <Drummerdude48> or the bus driver?
[11:48] <Sub_Zero> the bakers :/

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[AsG]Sub Zero Shaman


Joined: 15 May 2004
Posts: 5278 Location: England |
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 6:21 am -
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Come and easily pwn me then! _________________ [11:46] <Sub_Zero> greggs is gonna be highlight of my day
[11:46] <Drummerdude48> sweet
[11:46] <Drummerdude48> guy in college?
[11:46] <Drummerdude48> or the bus driver?
[11:48] <Sub_Zero> the bakers :/

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d4d4 Preacher

Joined: 13 May 2007
Posts: 758 Location: United Kingdom |
Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 1:47 am -
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hey termite, could i be a tester? _________________ Arsenal & gaming talks held here.
Contact me 07799346081 if you know me
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[AsG]Drummerdude48 Warrior


Joined: 03 Feb 2007
Posts: 272 Location: Ireland |
Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 5:38 am -
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Sorry to bump this thread (again) but has this project been abbandonned?  What work is left to be done? Any idea when this system will be introduced, if it is going to be? and are testers still required because i would be more than happy to join  _________________
There is no avoiding war, it can only be postponed to the advantage of others.
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ProtonageNet Computer Programmer / Administrator

Joined: 29 Jul 2002
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Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 1:04 pm -
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I have to put the project on hold for a while, need to find more time with alacn to implement what we have into the MM and talk to the database.
Will post back here when we resume the project.
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TeratO Shaman


Joined: 26 Nov 2003
Posts: 2061 Location: The Poo Hut |
Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 7:22 pm -
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... atleast a statement after 2 months of no reply to any pvt, pm or email.
... and the same "dying" like it was round 4 years ago ...
Btw i have an idea how to implement automated Elo to Pop without the need to recode the MM and taking alacns time. (and without a new Matchmaker or splitting the community - just to avoid misunderstandings). Just talk to me if ur interested and have programming skill. _________________ www.thepoohut.com - The Poo Hut
TeratO> Pooleiman. Have you ever made a constructive post?
Pooleiman_DT> dunno that word
Pooleiman_DT> so you shopuld stop acting as if poohut was the world
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Taity-mini_DT Warrior


Joined: 26 Oct 2006
Posts: 584 Location: Edinburgh, Scotland! |
Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 11:02 am -
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On the other mm we have used the elo system for some time look here
Look at our system if you need any ideas _________________
| mr bojangles_TN wrote: | | taity-mini productions to the rescue!!! |
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